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Greatham Parish Councillor currently has a vacancy for a councillor. Please view this link for more information.
Greatham Parish Councillor currently has a vacancy for a councillor. Please view this link for more information.
The parish council have received an update from EHDC regarding the situation at Lone Barn Farm, Church Lane, as follows:
Please see below link to a blog written by our County Councillor Russell Oppenheimer about waste and recycling in Hampshire.
https://www.russelloppenheimer.com/post/waste-and-recycling-in-hampshire
Copy of email sent to resident 21st May 2021 providing an update on the above application:
Greatham Parish Council contacted the Hampshire Association of Local Councils on Thursday 13th May 2021 to seek advice about the way EHDC have managed planning application reference SDNP/21/00667/APNB.
Hampshire ALC put the Clerk in touch with a planning specialist who spent some time going through all the documentation on the SDNPA web portal and speaking to the Clerk to obtain additional background information.
The following advice was then provided on 18th May 2021 by email.
Dear Jane
It was good to speak to you on the phone and I understand the controversy this issue is causing locally. Unfortunately, it involves an area of planning law where there is some uncertainty, and as I am not a lawyer I would certainly not offer any view on how that should be resolved. What I would offer are the following comments which may be of practical assistance.
Thank you for your email. Unfortunately the ‘SDNP/21/00667/APNB’ Prior Notification has deemed consent, that is the work can be carried out as submitted (my underlining)
This suggests that the LPA has decided that the work is authorised (but provides no explanation of why of course). Is this statement the actual position of the LPA and in what form has it been conveyed formally to the applicant? The parish council needs to know what has been said and the reasoning behind it. The question of whether or not, when considering an application for prior approval, the LPA is also bound to consider or is deemed to have considered whether the proposed development does actually benefit from the claimed permitted developments rights is not, as I understand it, a settled legal matter. The NewWorld Payphones case your correspondent refers does indeed say what is quoted. However, it is contrary to the view which has been understood from the previous leading cases and is not it considered definitive as it did not directly address those cases and precedence has not been firmly established. This is further complicated by a more recent case still which appears to revert back to the previous position. So, the question of what advice the LPA is relying on is one that you can reasonably expect to have answered.
3. In any event, the LPA did not determine the prior approval, it was deemed, and there is no final position statement on record (only the faulty decision notice which is presumably null and void). We are back to the question of what does the LPA think the position is and what has it formally told the applicant?
I would suggest that a reasonable course of action (and something which is needed before you can go further) is to ask the LPA for the correspondence with the applicant subsequent to the issue of the faulty decision notice. It is unsatisfactory that they have not given this to you and not placed it on the public record. A short, informal, email from the LPA is nowhere near enough in the circumstances. You may also want to ask the LPA for an explanation of the chain of events. Knowing what is and is not common ground between the LPA and the applicant is essential. Whilst this may not seem like a particularly ‘bold’ response, in my experience it is essential where you seem to be getting conflicting statements and messages from different sources within the LPA. With that information to hand a proper assessment can be made of any possible further action, even if that is only a complaint regarding the administration of the process. It will also help the LPA to straighten out their thinking which might be useful to everyone involved.
Jane – I’m very happy to take a call in respect of clarifying any aspect of this email of course. If I can be of further assistance to the parish council then I would be happy to do so although given the time constraints it would need to be on an arrangement beyond the HALC advice service.
Steve Tilbury MSc AssocRTPI
Steve Tilbury Consulting Ltd
Clerk additional notes: This is an email that we have been privy to from Nick Upton, EHDC Planning, which contradicts Danielle Hall’s email regarding the decision:
EHDC Planning Officer: I’m aware the applicant for this scheme wanted us to go beyond our remit and issue a decision on whether their development strictly meets the permitted development criteria. However, that approach is not correct and I’ve advised the applicant that our function in determining a Prior Notification under Part 6 of the GPDO relates solely to the impact on its surroundings and does not extend to confirming the lawfulness of a development. As ever, if the building does not meet the permitted development criteria and is not used for purposes permitted by Part 6 (eg agriculture) then it would not be lawful.
Recommendations from Informal Meeting of Councillors 20th May 2021
Councillors attended an informal meeting on 20th May and made the following recommendations to the Clerk under the delegation scheme. The Clerk will now carry out the following actions:
The complaint will also be sent to Tim Slaney, SDNPA and Julia Mansi, EHDC Planning Development Manager with a series of questions as follows:
A Freedom of Information request will be sent to both EHDC and SDNPA asking for all correspondence relating to SDNP/21/00667/APNB including, but not limited to:
Correspondence between EHDC and the applicant and/or his agent;
Correspondence between officers of EHDC;
Correspondence between officers of EHDC and the SDNPA; and,
Correspondence between officers of EHDC and District Councillors from Whitehill, Hogmoor and Greatham ward
Once we have responses to the above questions and seen the information provided under FOI, the Council will meet again to decide next steps.
Greatham Amicable Charity
Did you know that you can get financial help from Greatham Amicable Charity if you live in Greatham and are struggling financially? To find out more please read the flyer here:
The SDNPA Planning Committee met in March to discuss their response to the proposed development of 37 houses on the Liss Forest Nursery Site. The proposal was unanimously rejected and you can watch the discussion here. The discussion about Greatham starts at approximately 16 minutes in to the video.
SDNPA refusal of Liss Forest Nursery Site
The defibrillator has been placed back in the cabinet on the outside of the Church Rooms behind St John’s Church today. It has new batteries and pads and is in full working order.
We have been aware of some criticism on social media that the defibrillator was removed last week without informing residents. Defibrillator batteries last approximately 5 years so the unit has not had to be serviced until this year. The Clerk correctly removed the unit in order to do this and informed the ambulance service that it was currently out of action. This is the correct process so that when a resident dials 999 they are automatically directed to the next nearest defibrillator should they need to access one.
The ambulance service advised us that the defibrillator, which was purchased some years ago by the old parish council, was not registered with them at the time of purchase. This means that the emergency services have not known of its existence to use in an emergency. The good news is it will now be registered and also automatically added to the Save a Life app.
The defibrillator will be moved shortly to a new location at the Village Hall with a new cabinet as the existing one needs replacing. The cabinet will have a keypad system in place and if you dial 999 after someone has had a cardiac arrest, the ambulance service will give you the keypad code so that you can access the defibrillator.
Every community defibrillator needs to have two guardians whose details are held by the ambulance service and whose role it is to ensure the defibrillator remains response ready at all times. This involves checking the active light and battery life regularly and reporting any problems to the Clerk. The Clerk will have the overall responsibility for being the main liaison point with the ambulance service should there be any issues.
If you would like to take on the role of guardian please email the Clerk at
If you have a matter which you wish to draw to the council’s attention you can do so by contacting the clerk by letter, telephone or email using the contact form
Tel: 07873 891351
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